Hi everyone. I am really so excited and
delighted to be with Dr. David Clemens
again. Um we've had two conversations
which I've absolutely loved and they've
been out there in so many ways. So um so
welcome David. It's a joy to be with you
again. Thank you very much Pam. It's
really lovely to be back and again thank
you to your audience. you know, the
lovely comments and the warm-heartedness
with which people have been receiving
this information and being interested in
it is just it's very touchy. So, hello
to everyone and I'm really happy to be
back. You're doing beautiful, beautiful
work for us. So, um for those of you who
haven't seen those two videos, and I'll
put the links below so you can visit
them. Um Dr. David Clemens was
originally a very mainstream academic
um specializing in string theory, a
theoretical physicist and then we in in
the first conversation we had you talked
about how your life turned around 180
degrees and now you work with a
absolutely work with a very high
galactic team who are helping to direct
you in these exquisite meditations and
and downloads and channelings and um
David has a patreon group and you can
join as a free member and he puts out
regular live streams which you know I
just can't recommend enough. So we'll
put the link for that below as well. So
there's so much I want to ask you about
David because it you know we really do
seem to be in this accelerated evolution
um period at the moment and you're you
know you are certainly a big player in
that with all the work you're doing. So,
and one of the things you So, so now
David is very much a specialist in
living energy systems. Um, I think
that's fair to say. So, you very much
emphasized in all of your work, David,
that we have to go via our higher self
with everything. And I wonder if you
could just enlarge on on that. You know,
you talk about the higher self as a as a
gateway for each of us. And how do we
connect more clearly to the higher self?
And how do we how do we identify how do
we get a sense of the higher self if we
don't already have that?
Yeah, that's a great question. Um, so
I'll start with this. Um so what it
feels to me is that certainly
information and and the ethos that my
team have given to me is that uh we
began this experiment of forgetting and
you know part of the idea was to see
okay if you have a sufficient or or what
should we say a diminished level of uh
connection with with your your truth you
know can you have experiences because
you see if you have access to that
wealth of the truth of who you uh all of
the wisdom, the understanding, the
abilities, it would be too easy. You
just come in everything. Okay, that was
that was quick. That game was over
pretty fast. So I I feel in some sense
from a certain perspective that having
this game of forgetfulness means that
well now you get to learn to get into
the play pen and figure things out, have
experiences, do XY Z without all that
wisdom. But the idea is eventually
you're going to work your way back to
your truth. But in doing so, the wealth
of experience that you'll have by going
through the play pen without your master
key, so to speak, is going to give you a
lot of experience, a lot of learning
that you would not have gotten
otherwise. And I believe that is, you
know, again, from a from my perspective,
that is kind of part of the nature of
the
game. And now we find ourselves in the
midst of this process, which you know,
many call the ascension process and and
you know, and so forth. And the higher
self really to me the way uh in when I
first started my awakening which I'd say
is around you know just the very
beginning just after the
millennium you know I always you know
consciously or mentally thought of the
higher self as being something that was
outside of you sits up there he does
lofty things you know and um you know
and my higher self eventually said well
I'm not outside you I'm within you and
the perspective that I got was there
were field lays that kept expanding as
as the multi-dimensionality goes up and
up and up, it gets bigger and bigger and
bigger. And so one way to see this in a
very loose way is you know like um I
like to use the analogy if you if you
have a a drop of water you drop it into
a completely calm um you know pond of
water or something you take a snapshot
the minute that little sort of like plop
comes back up you know and at the very
top of that plop is the bit that sort of
anchors into us as a human being. But as
you go down, it opens up into
unlimitedness. And so the highest self
is more or less, you know, the extension
that is within us is like kind of the
tip of that plop if you like to coin a
phrase. And as you go higher and higher
in dimensionality into the higher self,
you get larger and larger and more
expanded. And then suddenly you get more
access to higher levels of what you
might call living energy uh living
energetics or you know living energy
physics and all those other masterful
abilities to change, manipulate, do all
sorts of amazing things with your uh the
space around you with matter. They
become available because that's all part
of the the the conscious energetic as
you go higher into the higher self. And
so all these stories about, you know,
master beings, you know, being on the
planet before who could do amazing uh,
you know, just very cool stuff, let's
put it that way, you know, because they
were able to uh anchor into a greater
depth of their higher self. And so that
facilitated the access to these
abilities, greater wisdom, insight, and
perspective that they could get. And the
higher you go within the higher self,
the greater that gets until eventually
you get back to source intelligence
itself. And so in a way, one way to see
it is that we're all and you know, if
you imagine this is like a veil of of of
perception and then you know these
fingers come up here and these look like
individual fingers, but the higher you
go, the more you drop this veil down,
suddenly they all come back into oneness
and you realize these are threads of
consciousness from the infinite source
intelligence. And we're all connected
that way. And then the, you know, so if
the tip of this is each of us, you know,
that the higher you go down there, the
more deeper into your higher self you
get until you eventually come back to
source intelligence. So I hope that kind
of gives a a kind overview in a way of
how how it seems to me that the higher
self is and and its relationship to
source intelligence. Fabulous. And
you've talked about a very simple breath
work practice to get us in touch with
the higher self. Can you share that with
the viewers as well? Yeah, definitely.
And yeah, many people have asked like,
well, how do I get in touch with my high
self? What's the what's the gig? And um
the way I would say it is that there
there are
actually I feel that each higher self at
any particular time uh has almost like a
because they know us inside and out.
There is there is there's no you know
being that knows us uh better than
source intelligence or our higher
selves. It knows us intimately inside
and out down to every every uh you know
um particle in our body and we'll know
exactly which is the best way at any
given time. But I I feel there's a
common theme and one of the ways when I
do the meditations that the teams bring
through um and then the teams includes
and you know within the center of my
team group is is my high self uh is that
it's a breath work and they were saying
that they call it rhythmic breathing and
rhythmic breathing is the most relaxed
most uh rhythmic breathing that that is
the most harmonious for you. So it's not
like big honking deep breaths that
strain your body and that kind of thing.
It's not like that. It's a very gentle
rhythmic peaceful breath that makes you
that it's it's like if there is a sweet
spot for your inb breath and out breath
that makes you feel the most relaxed,
the most calm, joyful that is that at
that time is that is the rhythmic
breathing for you. And so what they do
is they encourage uh on the inb breath
because the inb breath is like an
influx. It's an invitation for
energetics to come in. And so they what
what they do with the meditations is um
they invite people to use the inb breath
as a specific invitation like a sponge
to soak in more of the higher self
energetic and relax. Let it sit and then
do the outreath and then breathe more
in. So it's literally like you're
sponging, sponging, sponging, sponging.
And so and then eventually what they
have um giving given me the perspective
of is that when people practice that
regularly your inb breath starts to
become that that almost uh innate
invitation all of the time. So as you
breathe you are literally whether you
are doing it consciously or not you are
literally connecting with your higher
self and breath is very important in
that way and I I can see how you know
the linkage that they've and the
emphasis on that linkage that they've
placed. So that is a wonderful way and
people often give feedback of how much
they can really begin to sense the high
self presence when they do that because
again breathing isn't just breathing
with your lungs. You're not just
breathing physical air. you actually do
a full body breath. So it's literally
like your whole body starts to
rhythmically breathe and starts to open
up and invite and influx that higher
self energy as well. So relaxed it's
tummy relaxed as you breathe in.
Yeah. Just it's like one of the ways to
do it as a recommendation is just to
start just rhythmically breathing. Play
around with it. And it's I I always find
it's really important to be playful. The
more playful and less serious about this
you can be, the better it is because
that is the nature of source
intelligence. You know, seriousness is a
constriction or a holding on. And that
is actually just going to get in your
way. So if you feel any tension, just ah
whatever. Just relax. It's fine. You
know, just chill. And as you breathe in,
you'll find that, you know, as you do
this rhythmic breath, you might start to
find that you feel that it's almost like
your body is starting to breathe with
you. And it does. And so it's a full
body energetic breathing, the rhythmic
breathing. And you know, I would say to
anybody who's trying this, you know,
allow the process of unfolding and
learning to take place for this. Don't
get, you know, upset with yourself if it
doesn't take place straight away because
you, as human beings, we've learned to
have a very restrictive breathing. You
know, we've we breathe under stress most
of the time. You know, in the modern
world, you're like very shallow breaths
and you're just about sort of
functioning, you know. Uh but rhythmic
breathing is a very full body, deep
gentle u beautiful experience and and it
will come, but it's like an art form. It
just takes a little bit of practice just
to allow the body to remember how to do
it. You know, remember you're not
forcing your body to do it. You're
you're allowing your higher self to come
in and help your body remembering to how
to do the rhythmic breathing. Fabulous.
Thank you, David. And just for for
clarification, when David refers to his
team, these are high galactic beings.
They're not human employees or anything
like
that to his
team. People people are clear about
that. So, and I'd like to go back now to
um a wonderful meditation you did, live
stream you did in July 2023, David. I
think you've referred to it recently as
well where you talking about how cells
how our cells replicate and you were
saying in the past we've replicated
ourselves by a copy of a copy of a copy
of a copy and our telomeres kind of get
tatty as we get as we get older and then
that brings on degeneration and disease
etc. But what you seem to be saying in
that live stream was increasingly we are
going to be replicating ourselves by
going in and out of the living energy
field not just a copy of a copy of a
copy. Is that correct? Can you enlarge
on on that a little? Yeah, thank you for
asking that question. I was hoping you
would. Yeah, it's uh this to me is very
exciting. I've had a number of
experiences with my teams and even new
new groups that have been coming forward
recently and uh the understanding
they've been giving me is that because
of this uh experiment in forgetting
which required uh a certain what's the
word uh dislocation is uh more or less a
word but it's like a sense a sense that
you are your higher self isn't really
there that you're just walking around as
a you
a mental consciousness that just
survives and bumps around and gets on
with life, you know. Um, so essentially
that disconnection or because it's not
you can't completely disconnect. That's
not not possible. Okay? But you can it's
like a sort of energetic field of veil
that sort of prevents the energetics
from fully coming in from your higher
self.
Now what happens there is that it means
that there is a diminished level of
intelligent handling of the uh state of
cellular function, cellular health and
how things operate on a material and
cellular level in your body if that
makes sense. And so what happens is that
your cells have to get their
instructions on how to you know with
mitosis and and cell splitting and
development. they have to get it from
somewhere. And so what seems to happen
is that they copy the previous
generation cells instructions and when
they're formed and they have to leave
then the next generation copies from so
on and so on. So it's like a
hierarchical copying and the analogy I
think which is perfect is if you take a
photocopier put a nice pristine A4 sheet
of paper in there and you press go and
you get the output out and you go okay
I'm going to take this and I'm going to
swap it. I'm going to put that in the
beginning. Going to copy that. Going to
take that one out. Copy. You keep doing
that. And even if accidentally you
crumple the output once and you put that
in, it starts copying the crumples.
Everything you do from then on gets
copied, but it degrades. And so you keep
copying degraded information. And so any
form of um damage or influence you get
that that does uh damage the that that
cellular information that gets copied
gets copied all the way down the line.
Now, there are certain things that the
body innately does to try to repair
that, but it's very limited. And so, you
know, it's like humanity. We we get
born, we're we have this this
flourishing biology when we're young and
we're all great and everything's dandy,
you know, and then about age 21,
suddenly everything oh. Oh, there we go.
We're on the down slope, you know. And
uh and what they've described to me is
that um when you have a sufficient
connection with your higher self um you
know there's a there's a level of of um
uh source intelligment intelligent uh
handling of uh material um events or
material functions, cellular functions.
Which means that instead of the cells
getting their information of how they
propagate from the previous generations
of cells, they now get it directly from
these higher energetics that know
exactly how to organize, exactly how to
repair and exactly how to guide cellular
evolution the way it is. And there is a
divine template, I would call it, a
higher template that is stored in very
high levels that is pristine. You can't
mess with that. So anything that happens
down here doesn't mess with that
blueprint because it's it's
intentionally stored at a very high
level and it's my understanding from the
teams is that when uh humanity's reached
a certain point of connectivity with the
higher self that blueprint literally the
light that comes through lenses through
that blueprint and guides your entire
DNA structure cellular evolution
everything according to that pristine
blueprint and it makes sense because
when I connect with these teams, you
know, they have beautiful pristine
bodies, you know, they're not um
dysfunctional. They have all sorts of
weird stuff that we as humanity have
going on, you know, and as it was
described to me that these races that
have a sufficient level of that
connectivity, their body just keeps
going exactly the way they consciously
wish it to go and it's good to go for as
long as they need it. And when they
decide, you know what, I've had enough
experience in in this race. I'm good to
go. I think I'll have another one. Then
they leave and they they go for another
one. And that really is how life should
be. I mean, it it's I always say that
when you think about it, why, you know,
why would um you know, this this
beautiful source intelligence create,
you know, a system where bodies would
naturally degrade? It shouldn't be like
that. this is sort of an artificial
scenario we're in because of this game
of forget you know forgetfulness
um amongst other factors there are you
know some external ones which you know
um but uh but essentially that is um the
really exciting future which is coming
and I know we've spoken about this
before about the you know where
humanity's evolution is going and I
believe that that is why they always
recommend to me and I always say to
other people just keep connecting with
your high self. Practice it daily. you
know really encourage that connection
because that is where the very very
powerful and unlimited intelligent
organization of everything will come
from you know and you know and when you
get to a certain level that divine
blueprint if you want to change things
when you reach that level because it's
it's like a system where once you reach
a certain development consciously and
energetically you're then sort of it's
almost it's placed at a level to say
okay once you reach this level you're
sufficiently advanced in consciousness
and wisdom and responsibility you can
now change this template if you want to.
Um and so I feel that that is also
another thing that's coming in
humanity's future as well you know so
it's it's such an amazing future we have
and I I for me I would say that the path
to get there is always through the
higher self because that is where all
the keys all the gateways are are
involved. It's it's it's the real you,
you know, and and it's wonderful because
it's not something external you need to
go for. You know, a lot of people are
talking about a lot of uh technologies
that are coming forward and and might be
coming in our future. Well, that that's
that can be helpful, but it should never
ever replace the very powerful and
innate uh living intelligence or your
higher self you have with inside you.
Because the really advanced beings that
I that I connect with that are almost
nebulous and and feel like they don't
have technologies. They don't use that
anymore. Everything comes from them.
They can manifest, change reality,
change
space. The whole nine yards. Everything
is accessible when you get to that
level. And they simply have no need of
technology anymore. They can do
everything consciously. And I believe
that is really where humanity is
ultimately heading. Fabulous. So people
are some people at least are starting to
replicate their cells in the way you
described David. Is that the case? And
that would mean that we're living longer
and becoming healthier rather than
degraded over time. So is this already
starting to happen in the human
population? Yes, very gently. And
because it's there's a transition
because what you have to remember as
well is that
uh our higher selves or source
intelligence absolutely respects our
free will and so it will never override
that. So it it's it's up to us to to use
our free will choice like the invitation
with the inb breath to to say yes I wish
more of the higher self connection. I
wish more to blend with and become my
highest self. Because if you if you
don't make that intention or if you
don't make that free will choice, your
higher self is simply going to, you
know, be there. It's going to observe
your experience, but it's not going to
um push or pull you in any way. You
know, it's all very balanced and